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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10220</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The previous commenter contradicts himself about six times in the space of just two comments.</description>
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		<title>By: John Lord</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10210</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who think 'marriage between a man and a woman' is a clear, unambiguous statement - they should visit this site: http://www.crossdresserheaven.com/can-a-sex-change-end-your-marriage-legally/
and read about the transgender issue amongst today's mix of laws: "Urging the United States Supreme Court to tackle the issue in 2000, lawyers for Christie Lee Littleton, a Texas male-to-female transsexual suing her husband’s doctors for wrongful death, noted the confused landscape: “Taking this situation to its logical conclusion, Mrs. Littleton, while in San Antonio, Texas, is a male and has a void marriage; as she travels to Houston, Texas, and enters federal property, she is female and a widow; upon traveling to Kentucky she is female and a widow; but, upon entering Ohio, she is once again male and prohibited from marriage; entering Connecticut, she is again female and may marry; if her travel takes her north to Vermont, she is male and may marry a female; if instead she travels south to New Jersey, she may marry a male.” "

Now what do you do?
Not to mention the Texas attorney who feels obligated to keep two gays married because he refuses divorce them because he won't recognize their same-sex marriage that was made in another state. Ironic, no?  A Texas lawyer keeping two married gays together.

As for what makes a man or woman, don't forget that one in 2,000 aren't born exactly either sex. Visit http://dsdguidelines.org/ (which really needs a new name, since 'disorder' has negative connotations) or http://www.apa.org/topics/transgender.html

Good luck on unraveling it.
Oh, by the way, there's probably no God, so get on with enjoying your life (and stop trying to tell others how to live theirs.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who think 'marriage between a man and a woman' is a clear, unambiguous statement - they should visit this site: <a href="http://www.crossdresserheaven.com/can-a-sex-change-end-your-marriage-legally/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crossdresserheaven.com/can-a-sex-change-end-your-marriage-legally/</a><br />
and read about the transgender issue amongst today's mix of laws: "Urging the United States Supreme Court to tackle the issue in 2000, lawyers for Christie Lee Littleton, a Texas male-to-female transsexual suing her husband’s doctors for wrongful death, noted the confused landscape: “Taking this situation to its logical conclusion, Mrs. Littleton, while in San Antonio, Texas, is a male and has a void marriage; as she travels to Houston, Texas, and enters federal property, she is female and a widow; upon traveling to Kentucky she is female and a widow; but, upon entering Ohio, she is once again male and prohibited from marriage; entering Connecticut, she is again female and may marry; if her travel takes her north to Vermont, she is male and may marry a female; if instead she travels south to New Jersey, she may marry a male.” "</p>
<p>Now what do you do?<br />
Not to mention the Texas attorney who feels obligated to keep two gays married because he refuses divorce them because he won't recognize their same-sex marriage that was made in another state. Ironic, no?  A Texas lawyer keeping two married gays together.</p>
<p>As for what makes a man or woman, don't forget that one in 2,000 aren't born exactly either sex. Visit <a href="http://dsdguidelines.org/" rel="nofollow">http://dsdguidelines.org/</a> (which really needs a new name, since 'disorder' has negative connotations) or <a href="http://www.apa.org/topics/transgender.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apa.org/topics/transgender.html</a></p>
<p>Good luck on unraveling it.<br />
Oh, by the way, there's probably no God, so get on with enjoying your life (and stop trying to tell others how to live theirs.)</p>
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		<title>By: John Lord</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10208</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pointless arguments. Marriage is adapting to changes in society. It has ALWAYS been adapting. It always WILL be adapting. DOMA is nothing less than a religiously-backed hate law discriminating against same-sex couples.  Marriage, as an institution, didn't collapse when miscegenation laws were eliminated. Marriage, as an institution, didn't collapse when no-fault divorce was introduced.  It MIGHT collapse in the U.S. if we don't get some form of nationalized day care such as other countries have. With the economy being what it is, both parents have to work to support a family now, yet most companies are not yet structured to allow parents time off, or flexible enough schedules to handle work and children. One can foresee the day when economic forces might even engender group marriages to insure the adequate care and support of the children. Meanwhile, except for promoting unwanted babies via anti-abortion ads and hate messages for anyone who's 'different' from them, religions seem to be deliberately phasing themselves out of favor with intelligent people by issuing all these messages of hate. Even the pro-lifers seem to ignore the fact that the planet cannot support unlimited growth, that in most of the world starvation and homelessness are still common problems. I grant those small-minded people the rights to have their own opinions. Just please keep them to yourselves. Who someone wants to marry should be up to the couple involved. Go read Robert Heinlein's "To Sail Beyond The Sunset" or "For Us The Living" and realize that in the long view of years to come, you WILL lose this argument. Slave holders lost, Nazis lost, white supremacists lost, and religious bigots and homophobes will also eventually lose. Change is inevitable. Resistance is futile. I need not argue. I only need to wait and watch and vote my own conscience (which will counter at least one vote from this site.) Change is inevitable. Resistance is futile. Learn this from history's lessons: Just because 51% of the people want something, doesn't make it right and percentages WILL shift when people come to realize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pointless arguments. Marriage is adapting to changes in society. It has ALWAYS been adapting. It always WILL be adapting. DOMA is nothing less than a religiously-backed hate law discriminating against same-sex couples.  Marriage, as an institution, didn't collapse when miscegenation laws were eliminated. Marriage, as an institution, didn't collapse when no-fault divorce was introduced.  It MIGHT collapse in the U.S. if we don't get some form of nationalized day care such as other countries have. With the economy being what it is, both parents have to work to support a family now, yet most companies are not yet structured to allow parents time off, or flexible enough schedules to handle work and children. One can foresee the day when economic forces might even engender group marriages to insure the adequate care and support of the children. Meanwhile, except for promoting unwanted babies via anti-abortion ads and hate messages for anyone who's 'different' from them, religions seem to be deliberately phasing themselves out of favor with intelligent people by issuing all these messages of hate. Even the pro-lifers seem to ignore the fact that the planet cannot support unlimited growth, that in most of the world starvation and homelessness are still common problems. I grant those small-minded people the rights to have their own opinions. Just please keep them to yourselves. Who someone wants to marry should be up to the couple involved. Go read Robert Heinlein's "To Sail Beyond The Sunset" or "For Us The Living" and realize that in the long view of years to come, you WILL lose this argument. Slave holders lost, Nazis lost, white supremacists lost, and religious bigots and homophobes will also eventually lose. Change is inevitable. Resistance is futile. I need not argue. I only need to wait and watch and vote my own conscience (which will counter at least one vote from this site.) Change is inevitable. Resistance is futile. Learn this from history's lessons: Just because 51% of the people want something, doesn't make it right and percentages WILL shift when people come to realize it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10197</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

I will ask you as I have asked others:  wherein is the proof that homosexuality is not a choice?  What evidence is there that it is innate?  Please respond as I have never really had these questions answered satisfactorily.

Also, as has been bantered about ad nauseum, how is standing for marriage as the union of male and female, husband and wife, "bigoted?"  Explain why it is a "bigoted"  position to define marriage this way.</description>
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<p>I will ask you as I have asked others:  wherein is the proof that homosexuality is not a choice?  What evidence is there that it is innate?  Please respond as I have never really had these questions answered satisfactorily.</p>
<p>Also, as has been bantered about ad nauseum, how is standing for marriage as the union of male and female, husband and wife, "bigoted?"  Explain why it is a "bigoted"  position to define marriage this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10196</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

I assure you I stand for marriage as the union of male and female, husband and wife, not as you suggest, "to stroke my hates and fears," but because, as a Christian, it is my honor to stand for marriage as God intended.  No hate or fear involved, contrary to what you presume of me and others who support NOM and their efforts.

My point about the sibling relationships you mentioned was to say, at what point does marriage become a mockery of itself.?  There is no slippery slope, as marriage as anything other than the union of male and female, husband and wife, is a counterfeit, and will not stand regardless of how hard SSMers try to put SSM on a pedastal as if doing so puts SSM above the "fray" convincing passers-by of its supposed "merits."  The thing is, if SSM can stand on its own, then why does it need propped up?  No doubt, there is an endgame in mind lest society wise up to what is really going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>I assure you I stand for marriage as the union of male and female, husband and wife, not as you suggest, "to stroke my hates and fears," but because, as a Christian, it is my honor to stand for marriage as God intended.  No hate or fear involved, contrary to what you presume of me and others who support NOM and their efforts.</p>
<p>My point about the sibling relationships you mentioned was to say, at what point does marriage become a mockery of itself.?  There is no slippery slope, as marriage as anything other than the union of male and female, husband and wife, is a counterfeit, and will not stand regardless of how hard SSMers try to put SSM on a pedastal as if doing so puts SSM above the "fray" convincing passers-by of its supposed "merits."  The thing is, if SSM can stand on its own, then why does it need propped up?  No doubt, there is an endgame in mind lest society wise up to what is really going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10176</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo correction:

"This assertion of supremacy in the name of pro-gay bigotry would be unjust if the Government, on behalf of all of society, imposed it in any form — and it would be no less unjust if done in the form of a merger of SSM (a subset of nonmarriage) with marriage."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo correction:</p>
<p>"This assertion of supremacy in the name of pro-gay bigotry would be unjust if the Government, on behalf of all of society, imposed it in any form — and it would be no less unjust if done in the form of a merger of SSM (a subset of nonmarriage) with marriage."</p>
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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10175</link>
		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, the core meaning of marriage provides the legitimate basis for discriminating between marriage and nonmarriage.

Indeed, the lines drawn regarding related people are variable lines that each civilization figures out based on the societal concerns about sex integration and responsible procreation. This is about family formation via the conjugal union of husband and wife.

Declarations of love do not over-ride these societal concerns. Private and personal sexual behavior do not provide sufficient reason for society to issue licenses and to accord special status to incestuous relationships or arrangements.

But most nonmarriage arrangements that include related people do NOT entail sexual incest. And these are not outlawed. In fact, like the rest of the nonmarraige category, they can avail themselves of provisions for designated beneficiaries. Some of these arrangements are same-sexed and others are two-sexed. There is no gayness factor in play regarding these provisions and the eligiblity rules.

Yet SSMers would pick gayness, based on sexuality, out of the nonmarriage category and give it special status -- for no good reason, much less for special reason. 

This assertion of supremacy in the name of pro-gay bigotry would be unjust if the Government, on behalf of all of society, imposed it in any form -- and it would be far no less unjust if done in the form of a merger of SSM (a subset of nonmarriage) with marriage.

SSMers want society to favor gayness even as they declare that sexuality is irrelevant to the proposed SSM-merger with marriage. Even as they note that some sexual relationshps are outlawed; even as they blatantly contradict their own argumentation when it comes to "sexual minorities"; even as they boorishly dismiss love and commitment of some groups due to some unstated fear of these sexual relationships.

Do these SSMers mean what they say? Apparently not. Do they say what they mean? Apparently not so much. 

But they do say stuff and they expect us to take that stuff at face value and to base law on it. And they expect that favoring a particular identity group must "logically" negate their own argumentation.  

Those two expectations are not in alignment with justice, nor with the Constitution, nor with the societal significance of marriage itself.

SSMers should just admit that their argumentation entails opening the boundaries regarding incestuous marriage. Then, if they can, they should justify prohibitions. They cannot invoke societal concerns that they have disparaged when attacking the core of marriage.

If they can make SSM stand on its own two feet, then, their line-drawing should withstand the same rules they've used to attack, for example, the centrality of procreation and sex integration. Their anemic definition of SSM is virtually meaningless anyway, but it is particularly useless when drawing lines between what SSM is and is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, the core meaning of marriage provides the legitimate basis for discriminating between marriage and nonmarriage.</p>
<p>Indeed, the lines drawn regarding related people are variable lines that each civilization figures out based on the societal concerns about sex integration and responsible procreation. This is about family formation via the conjugal union of husband and wife.</p>
<p>Declarations of love do not over-ride these societal concerns. Private and personal sexual behavior do not provide sufficient reason for society to issue licenses and to accord special status to incestuous relationships or arrangements.</p>
<p>But most nonmarriage arrangements that include related people do NOT entail sexual incest. And these are not outlawed. In fact, like the rest of the nonmarraige category, they can avail themselves of provisions for designated beneficiaries. Some of these arrangements are same-sexed and others are two-sexed. There is no gayness factor in play regarding these provisions and the eligiblity rules.</p>
<p>Yet SSMers would pick gayness, based on sexuality, out of the nonmarriage category and give it special status -- for no good reason, much less for special reason. </p>
<p>This assertion of supremacy in the name of pro-gay bigotry would be unjust if the Government, on behalf of all of society, imposed it in any form -- and it would be far no less unjust if done in the form of a merger of SSM (a subset of nonmarriage) with marriage.</p>
<p>SSMers want society to favor gayness even as they declare that sexuality is irrelevant to the proposed SSM-merger with marriage. Even as they note that some sexual relationshps are outlawed; even as they blatantly contradict their own argumentation when it comes to "sexual minorities"; even as they boorishly dismiss love and commitment of some groups due to some unstated fear of these sexual relationships.</p>
<p>Do these SSMers mean what they say? Apparently not. Do they say what they mean? Apparently not so much. </p>
<p>But they do say stuff and they expect us to take that stuff at face value and to base law on it. And they expect that favoring a particular identity group must "logically" negate their own argumentation.  </p>
<p>Those two expectations are not in alignment with justice, nor with the Constitution, nor with the societal significance of marriage itself.</p>
<p>SSMers should just admit that their argumentation entails opening the boundaries regarding incestuous marriage. Then, if they can, they should justify prohibitions. They cannot invoke societal concerns that they have disparaged when attacking the core of marriage.</p>
<p>If they can make SSM stand on its own two feet, then, their line-drawing should withstand the same rules they've used to attack, for example, the centrality of procreation and sex integration. Their anemic definition of SSM is virtually meaningless anyway, but it is particularly useless when drawing lines between what SSM is and is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bar related people if the arrangement, say of siblings, includes mutual consent, commitment, shared resources and raising children together?

Indeed, there are millions of relationshps and living arrangements that are ineligible to marry but which include all of those features.

Note: these millions may or may not be sexualized. Yet they'd be incestuous with or without sexual behavior involved.

There is an observed phenomena known as genetic sexual attraction. Should acting on such an attraction be outlawed even when the people involved are consenting adults? 

According to SSM argumentation, nope. 

If this attraction is rare does that mean that those who experience it must be denied "marriage equality"? 

According to SSM argumentation, nope.

If so-called normal siblings would find it "icky", does that mean that this sexual minority must be outlawed and their mutually consenting and loving commitments be denied equality?

According to SSM argumentation, nope. Even if they pay taxes. Even if the majority rules.

Unfortunately for SSM argumentation, SSMers have declared that sexuality is irrelevant to the SSM-merger. So post merger sexuality cannot be revived as justification to bar incestuous arrangements -- sexually incestuous or otherwise. The SSMers need something else to justify denying the "right to marry".

Hedonistic societies, athiestic societies, and societies with no particular connection to the Bible -- all of these secnarios have included prohibitions on incestuous marriages. That cannot be dismissed based on some SSMer's desire to take swipes at religion at every turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bar related people if the arrangement, say of siblings, includes mutual consent, commitment, shared resources and raising children together?</p>
<p>Indeed, there are millions of relationshps and living arrangements that are ineligible to marry but which include all of those features.</p>
<p>Note: these millions may or may not be sexualized. Yet they'd be incestuous with or without sexual behavior involved.</p>
<p>There is an observed phenomena known as genetic sexual attraction. Should acting on such an attraction be outlawed even when the people involved are consenting adults? </p>
<p>According to SSM argumentation, nope. </p>
<p>If this attraction is rare does that mean that those who experience it must be denied "marriage equality"? </p>
<p>According to SSM argumentation, nope.</p>
<p>If so-called normal siblings would find it "icky", does that mean that this sexual minority must be outlawed and their mutually consenting and loving commitments be denied equality?</p>
<p>According to SSM argumentation, nope. Even if they pay taxes. Even if the majority rules.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for SSM argumentation, SSMers have declared that sexuality is irrelevant to the SSM-merger. So post merger sexuality cannot be revived as justification to bar incestuous arrangements -- sexually incestuous or otherwise. The SSMers need something else to justify denying the "right to marry".</p>
<p>Hedonistic societies, athiestic societies, and societies with no particular connection to the Bible -- all of these secnarios have included prohibitions on incestuous marriages. That cannot be dismissed based on some SSMer's desire to take swipes at religion at every turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, you asked me why heterosexual couples should be allowed to marry, while incestuous couples cannot.  Thanks for finally admitting that if homosexual "marriage" is allowed nothing should stop marriages of incestuous couples or groups of related or unrelated people, regardless of gender.  I have reached the same conclusion -- homosexual "marriage" would set a very dangerous and socially undesirable legal precedent.   That is yet another reason why homosexual "marriage" is a very bad idea.

Your praise of responsible use of sperm by lesbians would be "amusing" if such use did not result in harming children.  Yes Kevin, lesbians deserve gold medals for depriving thousands of children of fathers and for rendering those children emotionally handicapped.  As I said before, this is not only immoral, it is criminal, and, sadly, a very bad reflection on our society.

Finally, your attempt to trivialize the cost of homosexuality by touting the very "healthy" lesbian lifestyle is pathetic at best.  You may need some education here.   In 2008,  male to male transmission was responsible for over 70% of new HIV/AIDS cases.  Considering that male homosexuals constitute little over 1% of the U.S. population, the statistics are shocking and very telling.  You have to be a complete idiot not to see that.

Homosexual "marriage" legitimizes and promotes homosexuality, which, in addition to suffering, has already cost taxpayers billions of dollars because of HIV/AIDS treatment and research.  Add to that costs associated with other STDs rampant in homosexual community, as well as anal warts, anal cancer, hepatitis (A,B,C), and other blood and feces-borne diseases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, you asked me why heterosexual couples should be allowed to marry, while incestuous couples cannot.  Thanks for finally admitting that if homosexual "marriage" is allowed nothing should stop marriages of incestuous couples or groups of related or unrelated people, regardless of gender.  I have reached the same conclusion -- homosexual "marriage" would set a very dangerous and socially undesirable legal precedent.   That is yet another reason why homosexual "marriage" is a very bad idea.</p>
<p>Your praise of responsible use of sperm by lesbians would be "amusing" if such use did not result in harming children.  Yes Kevin, lesbians deserve gold medals for depriving thousands of children of fathers and for rendering those children emotionally handicapped.  As I said before, this is not only immoral, it is criminal, and, sadly, a very bad reflection on our society.</p>
<p>Finally, your attempt to trivialize the cost of homosexuality by touting the very "healthy" lesbian lifestyle is pathetic at best.  You may need some education here.   In 2008,  male to male transmission was responsible for over 70% of new HIV/AIDS cases.  Considering that male homosexuals constitute little over 1% of the U.S. population, the statistics are shocking and very telling.  You have to be a complete idiot not to see that.</p>
<p>Homosexual "marriage" legitimizes and promotes homosexuality, which, in addition to suffering, has already cost taxpayers billions of dollars because of HIV/AIDS treatment and research.  Add to that costs associated with other STDs rampant in homosexual community, as well as anal warts, anal cancer, hepatitis (A,B,C), and other blood and feces-borne diseases.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://nomblog.com/582/comment-page-1/#comment-10157</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, your comment was honestly one of the more ignorant I've ever read. 

"Homosexulity is a lifestyle choice. Ex-homosexuals constitue the best proof that it is just a choice. By choosing to be homosexual, you forfeit many wonderful things in life, including a chance of a real marriage (let’s pretend for a moment this discussion is really about marriage and not about radical homosexual agenda to force our society to endorse homosexuality).

You have a will (and brain in most instances), but you chose an unnatural, unhealthy, and often criminal (rampant pedophilia) lifestyle. I also suggest you check the most recent statistics regarding HIV/AIDS, syphillis, anal warts, and anal cancer. You only have yourself to blame."

Homosexuality is absolutely not a choice.  There is no such thing as an "ex-homosexual".  And surprisingly enough, the legalization of same-sex marriage is not part of the nonexistent "radical homosexual agenda".  It's simply a movement in which people want equal rights.  Your unwillingness to give them this is horrifying.

Also, your claims of "rampant pedophilia" are completely unfounded.  Aside from the fact that same sex marriage has nothing to do with a homosexual pedophile, research shows that even pedophiles who molest boys are most of the time straight, and it is the availability of children rather than the gender that matters.  

The connection that proponents of same sex marriage would in turn support polygamy and/or incest is utterly comical.  That is textbook logical fallacy and makes as much sense as stating that someone who supports the war in Iraq must also support the US nuking France tomorrow.  

The issue at hand is love and marriage - a voluntary union between two people recognized by law.  The fact that one would attempt to restrict another couple's happiness because of bigotry is shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, your comment was honestly one of the more ignorant I've ever read. </p>
<p>"Homosexulity is a lifestyle choice. Ex-homosexuals constitue the best proof that it is just a choice. By choosing to be homosexual, you forfeit many wonderful things in life, including a chance of a real marriage (let’s pretend for a moment this discussion is really about marriage and not about radical homosexual agenda to force our society to endorse homosexuality).</p>
<p>You have a will (and brain in most instances), but you chose an unnatural, unhealthy, and often criminal (rampant pedophilia) lifestyle. I also suggest you check the most recent statistics regarding HIV/AIDS, syphillis, anal warts, and anal cancer. You only have yourself to blame."</p>
<p>Homosexuality is absolutely not a choice.  There is no such thing as an "ex-homosexual".  And surprisingly enough, the legalization of same-sex marriage is not part of the nonexistent "radical homosexual agenda".  It's simply a movement in which people want equal rights.  Your unwillingness to give them this is horrifying.</p>
<p>Also, your claims of "rampant pedophilia" are completely unfounded.  Aside from the fact that same sex marriage has nothing to do with a homosexual pedophile, research shows that even pedophiles who molest boys are most of the time straight, and it is the availability of children rather than the gender that matters.  </p>
<p>The connection that proponents of same sex marriage would in turn support polygamy and/or incest is utterly comical.  That is textbook logical fallacy and makes as much sense as stating that someone who supports the war in Iraq must also support the US nuking France tomorrow.  </p>
<p>The issue at hand is love and marriage - a voluntary union between two people recognized by law.  The fact that one would attempt to restrict another couple's happiness because of bigotry is shameful.</p>
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