10 Comments

1. Adam
   Posted December 10, 2009 at 11:54 am | Permalink

   Why is it different in NJ. Anyone know why it didn't go to assembly first anyway like in NY? I thought it was the natural process.

2. Brenda
   Posted December 10, 2009 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

   You people live in a cave. Prejudice, Discriminatory anti human. The Pledge of Alligance is a bunch of crap because there is NO EQUALITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

3. Kevin
   Posted December 10, 2009 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

   Like the US Congress, bills can originate in either house. All money bills must originate in the House though.

4. New Jersey voters deserve better
   Posted December 10, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

   It sounds like this legislative stunt was necessary because homosexuals failed to corrupt enough senators. I've heard unbelievable stories about corruption among New Jersey's public officials.

   Also one of the reasons that voters tend to vote against homosexual marriage may be that they feel homosexual marriage is an assault on men's masculinity, and also possibly women’s feminism. A study of financial traders in London, a major international financial center, found that men’s masculinity was one key to their success as traders.

5. Kevin
   Posted December 11, 2009 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

   "Austria has passed a bill that will legalise civil unions for same-sex couples from the 1st of January next year, a move that ends "two decades of lobbying", according to the Homosexual Initiative Vienna.

   Justice Minister Claudia Bandion-Ortner said that, "We are living in the 21st century and I'm very glad this step is being taken today." The legalisation means that same-sex couples are given the same rights as their heterosexual counterparts."

   Congratulations, Austria!

6. john
   Posted December 11, 2009 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

   Civil RIghts, Human Rights, and Discrimination are the wrong frames for discussing Same-Sex Marriage (SSM). SSM is about endorsing a particular kind of behavior and declaring it is equal in value to the alternative behavior, not about discriminating against people based on immutable characteristics (such as race or gender) or their religious beliefs.

   Human beings choose their behaviors, and no reliable study or experiment has demonstrated that homosexual behavior is any different, though one may argue that some individuals are born with greater propensities to adopt certain behaviors (that is probably true with regard to certain criminal behaviors, but we do not allow it to be an affirmative defense in a criminal trial). Actually, most lesbians admit that lesbianism is a lifestyle choice and one they think that all females should adopt (most militant feminist lesbians are willing to try to convince any females they can to adopt it, and many do adopt it after having lived as heterosexuals for years). The more that homosexual behavior is condoned and accepted, the more frequent it will become as it creates positive feedback loops, as the rewarded, and not punished, behavior will be engaged in more frequently.

   Condoning lesbian marriages and families is particularly dangerous, as in the US women control the children and lesbians can ensure that the children become homosexual and particularly that the girls become lesbians. The dangers of this are great as it is easy for lesbians to convince girls that because boys are different, it is more difficult to understand them, to cooperate with them, and to create a harmonious family with them. That is because this is true to some degree, as the benefits of heterosexual relationships and families, though wide-ranging, are more subtle and long-term, and the dangers of lesbian families (creating insular social systems and a divided and dysfunctional larger society) are not always obvious.

   As cutting edge technology now allows for two eggs to be combined to form a zygote, the danger exists for lesbian communities to form with only girls as children, from the two lesbian parents, such children to all be taught to be lesbians, with such communities being insular and set apart from the mainstream society, creating a great divide within human society, making social harmony impossible and eventual conflict inevitable and quite likely catastrophic.

7. Chairm
   Posted December 11, 2009 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

   The Austrian guy mixed his categories when he, on one hand, referred to "same-sex couples" and on the otherhand referred to "heterosexual counterparts".

   Same-sex is not one and the same as homosexual. Indeed, the vast majority of same-sex scenarios in the nonmarriage category are NOT defined by homosexuality -- or even by a sexualized relationship. Indeed, the vast majority of the nonmarriage category is comprised of two-sexed scenarios -- including, mostly, individuals who are not homosexually inclined.

   The sloppiness of SSMers is routine and intrinsic to the SSM campaign here and everywhere.

8. FRANK
   Posted December 19, 2009 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

   John, you just show your ignorance when you say that homosexuals chose their behavior. It is no different than someone who prefers blonds, older, younger, larger breasts, larger rear ends etc, etc. I
   have had the feeling of being different than most since I was a very small boy! I had no idea what it was or why, but until you walk in my shoes, you should not judge someone else. I probably don't agree on many things you do in your life, but it is none of my business, as long as you don't harm anyone else. If it does not effect you, MYOB. Live and let live, don't hate just because people are different than you.

9. Robert
   Posted December 19, 2009 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

   John is right. No one is forced to do anything in this life. We all choose how we will act. Take some responsibility. You're not an automaton.

10. L. Marie
    Posted December 19, 2009 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Frank,
    For the most part, most people in America do simply mind their own business. It's the gay activists who have pushed these private choices into the political sphere and demanded across the board acceptance and even in some cases advocated promotion. Mind your own business? That's the best you have to offer after schools full of captive classes are indoctrinated against the wishes of their parents? What is happening in Alameda has also happened in many other places. Mind your own business as Catholic Charities is forced to close its doors because of religious intolerance fueled by the wrong headed policies gay activists are pushing on society? My friend. You are not advocating a world of live and let live, if you were, it is possible we could live more easily in peace.