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LA Times: "Presumptious Phrase: Responsible Procreation"

On Dec. 6, the LA Times reporter Karin Klein  has some questions about marriage and that   Presumptious Phrase: "Responsible Procreation":

"If that's the purpose, why on earth do we let people marry who have no interest in having children? How can we let the elderly marry, or people with infertility problems? Why do we let people who aren't ready for responsible child-rearing give up their children for adoption, and why do we let couples who have all the desire and ability for children adopt them, and why do we let inattentive parents get married?"

Let me answer briefly:

a. Because when they have sex they can make children, even if they aren't interested. Intention is not what makes babies.

b. Because every man and woman who marries can give any child they create a mom and dad, and none who are faithful to their vows will create fatherless children in alternative relationships.

c. Um, because the alternative is irresponsible and incompetent parenting?  Giving up a child is such a difficult thing to do, we're inclined to believe the young mother when she says it's necessary.

d.  How do we know they are inattentive parents?  The fact they are willing to take on the responsibility of marriage--fidelity and joint parenting and caretaking--helps filter who's in a position to be an attentive parent.  Don't have kids unless you first find someone you want to be tied to for the rest of your life.  It improves deciionmaking among those attracted to the opposite sex.

Breaking News: GOP Takes Back NY Senate

GOP leaders are claiming victory in the Long Island race where it appear Ralph Martins ousted the pro-SSM incumbetn Craig Johnson, given them control of the Senate chamber.  Will this pose end to dreams of SSM in New York? Good news for today, but keep your power dry.


Cooper v. Reinhardt: Exploding the Romer Argument

Chuck Cooper, at the last minute, dramatically exploded Reinhardt's efforts to locate Californians right to gay marriage in Romer v. Evans, as Bill Duncan points out:

'. . . In his rebuttal, Charles Cooper read an excerpt from Romer (that I certainly didn’t remember was in there) that specifically disavowed the idea that the decision was premised on taking away a right. As Mr. Cooper noted, the decision says: “Yet Amendment 2 [the law challenged in that case], in explicit terms, does more than repeal or rescind these provisions. It prohibits all legislative, executive or judicial action at any level of state or local government designed to protect the named class, a class we shall refer to as homosexual persons.'
So, if the judges are seriously considering a Romer decision, their theory was dealt a pretty hard blow. Whoever found the quote should get a bonus."

NRO: Cooper Shines in Prop 8 Arguments

Bill Duncan over at National Review Online agrees Chuck Cooper was great:

"One thing I haven’t seen mentioned much in the commentary on the oral argument (much of it blinkered by ideology) is the really superb job the attorney for the defense, Charles Cooper, did. Brian Brown at the National Organization for Marriage noticed. (Full disclosure: I co-authored an amicus brief for NOM in the case.) Cooper’s straightforward case for marriage was refreshing. His argument got right to the heart of the case — the reasonableness of treating the unique sexual relationship of a man and a woman different from other kinds of relationships.

He was particularly effective in responding to some of the novel legal theories floated by the judges. In his rebuttal argument, Cooper’s command of the precedent helped deflate the idea that the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Romer v. Evans prohibited the people of California from correcting the California Supreme Court’s reading of the state constitution regarding marriage. He was able to remind the court of a passage in that case disavowing the idea that merely changing an existing legal arrangement was enough to make a law invalid.

In regards to standing, I thought Judge Randy Smith made clear the essential problem with the plaintiffs’ argument. The governor and attorney general — who have no constitutional role in approving an amendment to the state constitution — would be given, by their inaction, the power to negate the amendment."

Ron Prentice on Prop 8 Arguments

After the arguments today, Dr. Morse sat down with ProtectMarriage Chairman Ron Prentice to get his reaction. Listen in.

David Boies, Squirming

About 40 minutes into the standing discussion, Judge Smith and Judge Reinhardt rake anti-Prop 8 "super lawyer" David Boies over the coals.  Go watch it yourself on C-span.  But here's an informal summary of a truly beautiful moment:

Judge Smith : Does the Governor have the power to veto this initiative? Does the attorney general?

Boies: no

Judge Smith: So the Attorney General and governor's decision have essentially nullifed the considerable effort it took to pass this legislation, if they don't appeal? . . .The Attorney General and Governor with no ability to nullify acts of the people and then by not appealing they do it (nullify it)" . . .

Boise: I agree that is so, but its true in every standing case"

Judge Reinhardt enters the discussion with this thought: ". . .That does not seem to be consistent with the intiative system, where the people are allowed to pass a measure. . ."

Boies: I think there is a different issue after a [trial]

Judge Reinhardt "Isn't this contrary to a system where the governor is not allowed to veto this measure but he is allowed in effect to veto it by refusing to defend it?"

Boise: ". . .the  U.S. Supreme Court has had this many times, the fact is there is no-one to defend does not give standing"

Judge Reinhardt then suggests the thing to do is ask the California Supreme Court whether under California law those who propose an initiative have standing.

Boies says something about why he disagrees with that.

Judge  Smith: any California law directly on point? If so I will go look at it.

Long, long awkard pause by David Boies.

Fun to watch!

Chuck Cooper--Watch Him Rock All Over Again!

If you missed the oral arguments, live, you can go and watch them here.  I dare you to watch and dispute the obvious: Chuck Cooper rocked!

For the Record: Chuck Cooper Rocks!

We are looking for a youtube video of the press conference afterwards, where for the first time, he lights into his good friend, Ted Olson. Stay tuned.

But for the record: Chuck Cooper rocks!!!

Catholics for Equality: An Unprecedented Threat to the Church?

Tom Peters, the young blogger who created America Papist, sent out an email to friends--and he has a lot of friends--about the debate on Wednesday night between Maggie Gallagher and Andrew Sullivan at Georgetown University, which is sponsored by a new group: Catholics for Equality.

Well, actually he focused primarily on Cathlics for Equality's plan to organize "inside churches" to combat the authority of Catholic bishops and to rat out priests who speak up for the Church's teachings on marriage.  Family Research Council and now Catholic.org have picked up his email, which allows us to share it with you.  Tom Peters calls Catholics for Equality "a dangerous and unprecendented threat to the Church." Read more here, and tell us what you think.

And support Maggie at this event in person or online if you can.

EVENT DETAILS:
Wednesday, December 8
7:30 – 10:30pm
Georgetown University Intercultural Center Auditorium (ICC)
37th and O Sts, NW
Washington, DC
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Reinhardt: Desperately Seeking Justice Kennedy's Vote

Even liberal papers are reading the oral arguments today as a sign that Judge Reinhardt is looking for some kind of "narrow ruling" that might not be overturned by the Supreme Court.  See "Appeals Court Hints at Narrow Ruling  " www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/06/BATJ1GMLER.DTL&feed=rss.news

Temperamentally, it's hard to believe a judge this activist-minded is going to sit back on the standing issue and refuse to be the guy who tries to make history by writing the opinion validating gay marriage.

Even Judge Reinhardt expressed considerable skepticism on the "lack of standing" arguments-- that the Attorney General and Governor had the sole standing to protect Prop 8: "The Ninth Circuit panel, which devoted the first hour of Monday's hearing to that issue, suggested that it would be unfair to let state officials effectively veto a ballot measure by letting it die in court.

"That does not seem to be consistent with the initiative system," Reinhardt said." (He suggested referring it to the California Supreme Court, effectively giving the California courts that same veto!)

But to really make history requires--not being overturned, as he so often is, by the Supreme Court.  Reinhardt appears to be toying with the idea of saying that you cannot rescind a right to gay marriage, if a court first grants it.  He is using Romer v. Evans (an opinion written by Justice Kennedy striking down a statewide ban on orientation anti-discrimination laws at the city and county level) as the precedent for saying: the majority cannot take away any rights of a minority by ballot initiative.

This is really conceptually pretty radical: it amounts to saying the voters have no right to amend their state constitution if they disagree with the supreme court's interpretation.   Romer was decided by Kennedy on the grounds it was about general access to the legislative process, not a specific right like marriage.

Lawyers routinely warn its hard to tell from oral arguments what judges do.  But none of the judges  appeared to accept the main Olson and Boies argument: Judge Walker had a trial and scientifically proved all the facts!

And Judge Reinhardt appeared to be desperately seeking a pathway to Justice Kennedy's vote.

Iowa Gov. Branstad: Let the People Vote on Marriage

In Iowa, Senate majority leader Mike Gronstal is vowing refuse to permit a vote on a state marriage amendment that would overturn the Iowa Supreme Court decision imposing same-sex marriage, and let the people of Iowa decide the future of marriage.  Today, Gov.-elect Terry Branstad called on the legislature to let the people vote on marriage:

"Speaking at a gathering organized by The Associated Press, Branstad noted that voters removed three Iowa Supreme Court justices after a campaign that targeted them for their support of a unanimous 2009 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in the state.

The court had ruled that a state law limiting marriage to heterosexual couples violated the constitutional right of equal protection"

It was the first time in nearly 50 years that voters had removed Supreme Court justices in retention elections.

“The Supreme Court, I think, made a tragic mistake in their decision on same-sex marriage,” said Branstad.

The voters of Iowa have overwhelmingly rejected three members of the Supreme Court because of it and I think we need to restore support for the judicial system, and one way to do that is to give people the opportunity to vote on restoring the one-man, one-woman marriage.”


Dr. J: The good news about Judge Reinhardt and Prop8

Yes, there is some good news about Judge Stephen Reinhardt being one of the 3 judges drawn at random to hear the Prop 8 case in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Some people are worried about this, since he is notoriously liberal. His wife also has significant connections to the case, which some argue should be grounds for recusal.

I’m not worried however. He can either:

a) Rule against Prop 8, overturning the will of the voters, or

b) Rule in favor of Prop 8, sustaining the voters of California

If he rules against Prop 8, we have the consolation of knowing that he is one of the most frequently overturned justices in any circuit court. The Supremes will have the last word.

If he rules in favor of Prop 8, we have the satisfaction of knowing that even the most liberal judges can’t find a federal right to same sex marriage.

Bring it on!

NOM Decries Biased 9th Circuit Appeals Hearing -- Reinhardt Refusal to Withdrawal Robs People of Unbiased Appeal

The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) today decried the hearing to determine the constitutionality of Proposition 8, California's constitutional amendment providing that marriage is only the union of a man and a woman. NOM is protesting the involvement of Judge Stephen Reinhardt because Reinhardt's wife has been involved in the case from the beginning as the Executive Director of the ACLU of Southern California.

"This hearing makes a mockery of the federal judiciary," said Brian Brown, president of NOM. "Citizens are entitled to a guarantee of impartiality from their judiciary. Yet here we have the spectacle of a federal appeals court justice ruling on a case in which his wife represents a group that is a participant. A cynic would be left to wonder if the fix is in for marriage in the Ninth Circuit."

Help NOM protect marriage and put a stop to this abuse of the will of the people. Right now your donation of $10, $25, $100 or more will be doubled thanks to a matching challenge grant from some of our generous donors. Please give today.

See the rest of the statement here.

Dr. J interviews Bill May on Prop 8 Arguments

Bill May, Chairman of Catholics for Common Good discusses standing, rationality, and the rights of California voters with Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse.

Activity Ramping up over at Prop8case.com!

Activity is ramping up over at www.prop8case.com, with pictures and commentary from outside the courthouse. Dr. Morse is inside and will join us with live blogging updates shortly.

Check out all the action at www.prop8case.com.