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Flashback: Palin v. Biden on SSM 2008

Sarah Palin v. Joe Biden on SSM, October 2008: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfIKdRmWkBI

Volokh: Chuck Cooper Was (Probably) Right!

In her AP story, Lisa Leff focuses on the trial record and describes it as a "knockout"; but even legal eagles who favor gay marriage, aren't so sure.  Check out Eugene Volokh's comments vindicating Cooper's decision that with a judge that biased and a trial that really wasn't necessary, scrambling for more witnesses would have been a mistake:

"Despite the lopsided trial record, most legal experts agree the defense team's reasoning is not far-fetched. They say the three-judge panel could discount the exhaustive trial evidence that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker laid out in his August decision. In its place, the panel could substitute studies that were barely discussed in Walker's court or, more likely, its own interpretation of relevant case law.

'I can't say whether the case was litigated well or badly,' said Eugene Volokh, a UCLA law school professor whose popular legal-affairs blog was inundated with comments from observers critical of the defense's trial performance. 'If the question is whether they should have introduced more witnesses at trial, I'm skeptical it would have done any good. It certainly wasn't necessary, and I'm not sure it would have been at all helpful.'"

They’ve already redefined marriage.

In their minds, that is.

Our side considers legalizing same sex marriage to be a redefinition of marriage. We try to persuade people that redefining marriage would be harmful.  But I have noticed that many people who favor ssm have ALREADY mentally redefined it.  In their minds, marriage is only about adult relationships, with children as optional, for sure, and sometimes with permanence and fidelity as optional as well.

Since marriage is already just about adults, they can’t understand what the fuss is all about.  Why not just include same sex couples in this more or less pointless vestigial social institution called marriage?   They can’t understand why the legal system doesn’t catch up with the image of marriage they are already carrying around in their heads.

They don’t see that by continually defining marriage down, we are making marriage less and less able to perform its intended and necessary social function of attaching mothers and fathers to their children and to each other.  And they don’t seem to see that having a functional next generation is in everyone’s interest.

Defending the voters of CA

I expect that Chuck Cooper will defend the voters of California against the truly scurrilous attack made by Olsen and Boies and repeated by Judge Walker.  The plaintiffs complained about the advertising used during the campaign. I was shocked the first time I heard this complaint.  They couldn’t find anything explicitly “homophobic” in the campaign ads. So they drew inferences about the intent of the voters, from subliminal messages that they imagined the voters must have been really responding to. Here is what Cooper said in his motion to appeal about “inferring” voter intent.

The district court thus erred as a matter of law in drawing the “inference” that Proposition 8 was motivated solely by an irrational and bigoted “fear or unarticulated dislike of same-sex couples” or by the “belief that same-sex couples simply are not as good as opposite-sex couples.”

At any rate, the inference of anti-gay hostility drawn by the district court is manifestly false. It defames more than seven million California voters as homophobic, a cruelly ironic charge given that California has enacted some of the Nation’s most progressive and sweeping gay-rights protections, including creation of a parallel institution, domestic partnerships, affording same-sex couples all the benefits and obligations of marriage…

The district court’s “inference” regarding the subjective motivations of seven million Californians is based on a tendentious description of no more than a handful of the cacophony of messages, for and against Proposition 8, that were before the electorate during the hard fought and often heated initiative campaign

See what I mean?  He is sticking up for the voters. He had to so so, because the opponents of Prop 8 have impugned the motives of millions of California voters, and the millions of other Americans who agree with them in supporting the principle that marriage is the union of one man and one woman.

The Next Roe v. Wade?

In the LA Times, the sociologist Brian Powell suggests Perry v. Schwarzenegger is the next Loving v. Virginia, helping to change public opinion. In so-suggesting, by the way, he's validating the argument of those who support Prop 8--the law has the power to change cultural understandings of marriage.

He doesn't really consider the other possibility: by resorting to the courts, gay marriage advocates are cutting off the conversation they precisely want to have--and undercutting the legitimacy of the prize they seek to win.

Not the next Loving v. Virginia, but the next Roe v. Wade?

WaPo gets the Prop 8 point: the number of “experts” is irrelevant.

The Prop 8 legal defense team has taken a beating in public debate. But the MSM, in the person of Washington Post reporter Lisa Leff (finally) start asking the right questions. What was the point, if any, of all the expert testimony presented in the original Prop 8 case?  Our side says it was basically pointless, from a legal point of view, and merely for public relations purposes.  Reporter Leff found some commentators who see the point:

Eugene Volokh, a UCLA law school professor whose popular legal-affairs blog was inundated with comments from observers critical of the defense’s trial performance, said, “If the question is whether they should have introduced more witnesses at trial, I’m skeptical it would have done any good. It certainly wasn’t necessary, and I’m not sure it would have been at all helpful.”

And University of Pittsburgh law professor Arthur Hellman said that the mere number of witnesses called by each side is unlikely to be decisive in any event.  "It is unlikely the court would consider itself bound and limited by what happened in the district court, that it could not go beyond the trial record," he said.

WND: Courts "Hostile Takeover of Marriage"

On the eve of oral arguments at the 9th Circuit in San Francisco, World Net Daily describes Judges Walker's ruling as the courts "hostile takeover of marriage."

Maggie Untied

Over at 365gay.com Prof. John Culhane has published a piece "Why Civil Unions Tie Maggie Gallagher in Knots."

He doesn't seem to get what I think about civil unions.  So let me help him untie those knots.

1. For me, the gay marriage debate is primarily a debate about marriage.  That's the issue that motivated me to drop everything and enter this debate:  Do we as a society care enough about the need to bring mothers and fathers together for children to protect the public meaning of the one social institution we have which has always had this core mission?

2. Therefore,  for me (and people who think like me) practical benefits for gay people are a separate issue. This confuses gay rights advocates because of course for them, it's the same issue; it's all about what does justice require that we do for gay people.  But for me, the question becomes: there's a group of people who don't fit marriage very well, and maybe we can find a way to do something for them.  Not as a rights issue--you can't buy the right to discriminate with civil unions and marriage is not discriminatory-but out of consideration, as a gesture of  civic respect, crafted in ways that would minimize the impact on a marriage culture.

So I urge people who advocate for civil unions to do so not because they think it's a right (it's not), or because they think it will buy peace (it won't)  but because they think it's the right thing to do. (This is where Prof. Culhane finds my argument so confusing.  He's a pretty smart guy, trying to make it clear). There are many forms of civil unions I could accept.  (What's the basic outline? Inclusive partnership bills, that are based on respect for adult love and caretaking among couples who are unlikely to marry, such as same-sex couples, but the devil is in the details, see below).

3. Unfortunately, due to some very bad state court decisions that Prof. Culhane applauds, many forms of civil union bills objectively threaten the defintion of marriage. That's because at least two state supreme court's have used the passage of a civil union bill as a justification to knock down the state's marriage law.  With careful drafting this--and the religious liberty threats--can be dealt with, if the people proposing them want to avoid the misuse of the law to threaten marriage.  But mostly they don't want to, they want to use the law to invite the courts to knock down marriage.

4. The biggest obstacle to expanding domestic partnerships benefits now is that the gay rights movements has convinced its own supporters that these partnerships benefits are a demeaning insult, "separate is not equal."  And the moral narrative of equality, not practical benefits, is what they really seek.

BTW, I've pretty much been saying the same thing about civil unions since 2003, except that the Connecticut and California supreme court decisions (which of course I think were wrongly decided) have made doing civil unions bills without threatening marriage much more complicated.

Hope that clears things up for the good professor.  Happy to help.  : )

The "fundamental right to marry" case favors man/woman marriage.

Skinner v Oklahoma is one of the standard cases cited in defense of the
"fundamental right to marry." In this 1942 case, the Court stated, "We are
 dealing here with legislation which involves one of the basic civil rights 
of man. Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and
 survival of the race."

The facts of this case have nothing to do with marriage. Skinner stands for 
the idea that procreation is a central feature of marriage. Hence, Skinner
 supports natural marriage, not same sex marriage.

Mr. Skinner had been convicted of 3 felonies: two counts of armed robbery, 
one count of chicken theft. Under Oklahoma's Habitual Criminal 
Sterilization Act, these three felony convictions were sufficient for the 
state to sterilize him as a habitual criminal.

The state of OK did not propose to prohibit Mr. Skinner from ever getting
 married, only to render him incapable of ever siring children. Marriage was
 so closely linked to procreation in the Court's view, that rendering him
 sterile presented a serious barrier to him ever marrying.

The Court did not say what the advocates of same sex marriage imply that it
 said: that Mr. Skinner had the right to marry anyone he wanted.

What the court did plainly imply is that marriage and procreation are
 tightly linked, both in experience and in logic. By sterilizing Mr.
Skinner, the state of Oklahoma would make him "damaged goods" and unlikely 
to succeed in finding a marriage partner for himself.

Hence, this case really stands for an understanding of marriage that links 
marriage, sex and procreation. Skinner v Oklahoma took this position for 
granted. This case supports natural marriage.

The 28 Days of the NOM Marriage Challenge!

We need your help to protect the gift of marriage this Christmas season.

The November elections have brought us to a moment of unprecedented opportunities, with the chance to pass new marriage amendments, strengthen legislative protections, and even roll back same-sex marriage in states like New Hampshire and Iowa.

But it’s also a moment of profound risk. Risk of letdown. Of complacency. Of surveying our successes with satisfaction, while forgetting that all we accomplished on November 2nd only set the stage.

Now is the time that we must begin working to capitalize on those opportunities – organizing, planning, and beginning the grassroots outreach that will turn our electoral successes into lasting legislative victories. NOM poured over $12 million—everything we had—into focused, strategic initiatives to protect marriage this year. We urgently need your help to prepare for the 2011 legislative sessions.

We’ve just launched our new Marriage Challenge website. Thanks to a generous marriage challenge grant, every dollar we can raise over the next 30 days will be matched, doubling the impact.

Please take a moment to watch our new Marriage Challenge video, recapping our successes of the past year and setting the stage for 2011. Then take the Marriage Challenge with your most generous gift. Thanks to the challenge match, your $25 gift becomes $50. A $50 gift becomes $100 to protect marriage. And $500 becomes $1000 for marriage!

My wife and I were blessed with the birth of our seventh child this week—Madeleine Sophie Brown. As I look at these little ones, I am more determined than ever to do whatever lies within my power to preserve, protect and defend the institution of marriage and the religious liberty upon which our great nation was founded.

Now the question is: Are you willing to do what it takes to protect a culture of marriage and religious liberty for your children and grandchildren? Will you stand with me today? Accept the 30-Day Marriage Challenge and join us with a gift of $25, $50 or more.

Then—and this is equally important—please ask 10 friends to join you in taking our 30-Day Marriage Challenge at this all too critical moment.

-- Brian

Liberal Legal Expert: Reinhardt v. Supreme Court 5-0

Vikram Amar is a liberal legal scholar but a good analyst.  In attempting to evaluate how this three-judge panel will rule, he notes this striking fact:

"In one Supreme Court year, [Judge Reinhardt's]  opinions were reversed unanimously -- that is, without a single Justice ruling in his favor -- in at least five cases, a whopping number given the rarity with which a lower court judge's rulings are even taken up by the high Court as a general matter."

Pro-SSM Legal Pundit: Reinhardt Should Recuse!

Even an anti Prop-8 legal pundit, Ann Woolner,  agrees with us: Reinhardt should recuse!

Does Judge Reinhardt Have a Case--or a Clue?

Over at Bench Memos, Ed Whelan points out that Judge Reinhardt's order refusing to disqualify himself was devoid of content.  He says he can explain "in due course" why the facts justify his refusal to recuse himself.  But oddly provided NO SUCH FACTS, in his decision denying recusal.

This is one weird lacunae for a federal judge.  Not even a hint why his wife's involvement in this case is irrrelevant?  And the case to be argued--on Monday???

Ed Whelan explores the alternatives,

Maggie: Why Don't We Ban Infertile Couples from Marriage?

Over at Reason magazine, Damon Root writes there is no legitimate Constitutional reason to define marriage as an opposite sex union.

"Supporters of Prop. 8 claim that banning gay marriage advances a state interest in procreation. But if that’s true, why not ban infertile individuals from getting married as well? Or perhaps the government should require childbirth as a condition of the marriage license?"

Let me answer Damon's question: because doing so would almost surely decrease the likelihood that children are born to and raised by married couples.

Such a legal structure would not strengthen the relationship between marriage and procreation, it would weaken it.

More people attracted to the opposite sex would be refused marriage, and so would be more likely to create out of wedlock children as a result of alternative sexual relationships.

Here's another way to paraphrase Root's question: Why is it that the law has never barred infertile couples from marrying, but has barred impotent men from doing so?

Why is sex necessary for "civil marriage", but not fertility?

No, the state does not require you to prove sexual capacity (oooh, don't want to think about THAT test!) before issuing you a marriage license, but it does permit you to annul your civil marriage--i.e. have the state declare it null and void--if a man or woman was incapable of sexual intercourse when they married.

Wow.  Why?

Because here's the way that marriage protects children: it regulates sex.

The only way men and women attracted to the opposite sex can reasonably hope to protect their children by making sure they are united in one family with the man and woman who made them--is to FIRST enter a faithful, sexually exclusive, permanent sexual union.

The relationship between marriage and responsible procreation explains most of its key features under the civil law. Strip marriage of this public purpose, and it becomes, literally, unintelligible as a public, civil institution.

Damon Root admits this by saying, in his view, there really is no good reason why government is in the marriage business.  He's right, under his view,  there is not.

Action Alert: Tell the Courts Judge Reinhardt MUST Step Down in Prop 8 Case

Judge Stephen Reinhardt has just refused to step down from a three-judge panel that will consider the arguments for and against Prop 8 on Monday -- in spite of the fact that his wife has provided legal counsel to one of the parties in the case! And in an unparalleled act of judicial arrogance -- he has refused in his initial order even to explain why!

My friend, in a few days a three-judge panel in San Francisco's 9th Circuit is going to consider Judge Walker's heinous attempt to overrule 7 million Californians and impose his values on the American people. (Visit www.prop8case.com for live coverage of Monday's oral arguments beginning shortly before 10am PT / 1pm ET.)

Unless you act today, one of these three judges will be Judge Stephen Reinhardt-and this very liberal judge has a serious conflict of interest that means he should disqualify himself from hearing this case.

I have an urgent, urgent request for you.

Will you call the 9th Circuit today, right now: and tell them: Judge Reinhardt should disqualify himself!

What's the problem? Judge Reinhardt's wife, the head of Southern California's ACLU, actually consulted as an attorney with the plaintiffs challenging Prop 8! Judge Reinhardt's wife gave legal advice to one of the sides in this case-how can he appear as an impartial abiter of justice!

The Judicial Code of Conduct forbids even the appearance of impropriety. And it would be improper for Judge Reinhardt to make himself arbiter of the fate of 7 million Californians when his own wife is an active part of one side's case!

This is urgent. Drop everything and call right now. (415) 355-8000.

Then pass this message on to your friends and urge them to call (415) 355-8000.

Remember, be rational, be polite, be your best self-this is the judiciary of the U.S. and they deserve our respect-but call today and tell them: "Judge Reinhardt must disqualify himself, because his wife has given legal advice to one of the parties in this case-and that's not fair!" Call (415) 355-8000.

For more background, click here to see NOM's press release. But please, as you value your liberty, as you value a fair and impartial judiciary, as you value you and your children's right to vote for marriage-call right now today! (415) 355-8000.