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"The Ick Factor"--Is there a right to consensual incest?

David Epstein, a Columbia poli sci professor, was just arrested for have a consensual sexual relationship with his 24 year old daughter.  His lawyer wasted no time making a Lawrence v. Texas style defense of his client's alleged act, according to this ABC news video report, which raises a new public question: do we all have a right to commit consensual adult incest?

The interesting thing is the response by progressive pro-gay marriage family law professors.  How do we explain why we criminalize incest?  "The ick factor" is the best Prof. Joanna Grossman can come up with (inherently coercive might do for fathers, but surely  not for sisters, say).

Over at Discover magazine, they rely on a more sophisticated-sounding form of the Ick Factor.  Natural sociobiological aversion.  But of course if the aversion is natural why does the law need to be involved?  Incidentally adult consensual incest has, according to ABC News been legalized in a variety of developed countries.  And the sky has not fallen.  It never does.

I always avoided all these slipperly slope arguments because to me the rightness of our marriage tradition does not depend on the idea that changing the law's meaning and purpose will lead to a possible right to  polygamy or a public debate about a right to  incest.  But it does seem to be happening, rather more quickly than anyone imagined.

I wish Grossman and company well in coming up with a more coherent explanation for why the Constitutional right to have sex and intimate relationships and indeed marriage with anyone you want, or the one person you fall in love with, can be cabinned in principle by anything other than irrational moral disgust aka "the ick factor."

Will Helping AIDS Victims Avert the Charge of Hatred and Bigotry?

Over at First Things, a wonderful evangelical theologican Ron Sider, who cares very deeply about marriage, argues the way to deflect the charge of hatred and bigotry is to behave with greater Christian charity towards suffering gay people, especially AIDS victim.

It takes a Catholic to gently respond from our Church's experience: no that won't reduce the hatred flung our way. But we should do it anyway.

My favorite line from Jeff Mirus' essay is the last one: "And while I can certainly agree that if love is a strategy, it is the greatest of all strategies—nonetheless I cannot get past that “if”."

All Rights from the Apple Creator?

This comment appeared on our blog. Because of the mild profanity, it might get erased but I wanted to reproduce it here (censoring only the curses!):

"If you don't like the way Apple and Jobs handles your app, invent your own [darn] computer.  Otherwise, shut the [blank] up!  They owe you nothing and you have no "right" to have your app published.  It is a privilege that is the right of the Apple Creator."

And thus does Steve Jobs becomes our kindly Big Brother, issuing information purification directives, using his market share to protect us from contradictory and confusing truths.

(When you are confident you are right, you have no need or desire to censor alternative views, incidentally.)

Princeton v. Yale; Robby George vs. Kenji Yoshino

Yale prof. Kenji Yoshino tries to rebut Princeton Prof. Robby George's new essay (along with Sherif Girgis and Ryan Anderson) "What is Marriage?" in Slate today. [Correction: Prof. Yoshino recently left Yale Law to join NYU's law school]

Over at NRO's Bench Memos blog Matthew Franck evaluates the match and issues a ruling: Princeton by a mile.

"A Swing and Miss in the Marriage Debate"  is the headline of Franck's post which concludes:

"Bottom line: Yoshino provides nothing–nothing at all–by way of an argument for including gay couples in the institution of marriage.  For he provides no alternative answer to the question Girgis, George, and Anderson propound: What Is Marriage?  Is this the best pro-gay-marriage folks can do?"

Prof. Robby George: How SSM Will Hurt Marriage!

NOM's founding Chairman Prof. Robby George and his colleagues Sherif Girgis and Ryan Adnerson have written an amazing essay "What is Marriage?" for the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy. We'll post excerpts in a bit. Meanwhile, read it in full here.

From Iconic to Ironic – Steve Jobs Transformation into Big Brother

Apparently Apple Computers “got the memo” that it is “OK” to discriminate against Christians. Leading that charge is their Chairman/CEO Steve Jobs. Despite one of the highest positive ratings available (4+), Apple pulled an app developed by the Manhattan Declaration—a group of 500,000 Christians who have publicly declared their support for traditional marriage, life and religious liberty—from their iTunes store.

NOM is fighting back with this powerful new video calling on all Christians to email Jobs and demand that they reinstate the app to the iTunes store.

Steve Jobs is an iconic figure, a legendary marketer who sprang to public attention in 1984 with his famous ad promoting the Macintosh computer by taking on “Big Brother.” Since then, Jobs has made billions in his information age battle against Big Brother. Ironically, in deciding to pull the Manhattan Declaration app, Steve Jobs has become “Big Brother.”

The app in question would help Christians sign the Manhattan Declaration and encourage their friends and family to likewise do so. It was approved by Apple reviewers and rated 4+, certified to contain no offensive material. Yet Apple pulled the app after an online petition by gay marriage activists. An Apple spokesperson said the app was “offensive to large groups of people.”

What’s offensive is the action of Steve Jobs. Jobs allows applications in support of gay marriage and abortion. Planned Parenthood has an app, so do several gay marriage groups. There’s an app to sign petitions to repeal Proposition 8 in California. And there is even an app coming to allow gay marriage backers to “report” priests and pastors who preach about the sanctity of marriage!

NOM is not going to be bullied as Jobs and Apple insult Christians and the majority of Americans who support marriage as the union of men and women. This is the latest attempt by technology billionaires to marginalize and isolate marriage supporters, attempting to drive us form the public square.

CONTACT STEVE JOBS

We don’t have the resources to compete with a billionaire like Steve Jobs. But we do have grassroots supporters like you! Please watch the video and then share it with all your family and friends. Ask them to take action by contacting Steve Jobs and demand that they reinstate the Manhattan Declaration app. Click here to send an email to Steve Jobs and other members of the Apple board.

Please help us spread the word about this incredible video by making a donation to NOM today. NOM is fighting hard to preserve marriage, including in legislatures, in court and in the court of public opinion – even when billionaires try to stop us.

Steve Jobs has built Apple into one of the most powerful companies in the world by helping develop the information age, making billions in profits in the process. We certainly don’t object to him making money by marketing devices for consumers to access the incredible amount of information that is available today through the Internet, social media and other sources. What we do object to, however, is Jobs censoring that information, especially when it comes to something as important as the preservation of marriage.

Newsweek: New Leaders of Christian Right

NOM Chairman Maggie Gallagher is featured as one of the "Faces of the Christian Right" by Newsweek, as is NOM's founding Chairman Robby George.

Here's the weird thing though: Jim Wallis is listed as a member of the "Christian Right" as are several people who work for Pres. Obama. The old Christian Left is apparently the new Christian right, according to Newsweek. Not that we don't appreciate the plug.

Photos and comments by Newsweek reporters on how important we all are, here.

Marjorie Dannensfelser of SBA List also makes the cut "like Gallagher."  Marjorie is an inspiration to us all.

Newsweek: Uncivil Rights?

What would Dr. Martin Luther King do?

Newsweek asks whether gay rights and the African-American civil rights struggle are really all that similar. (Brian Brown is quoted!).

Chuck Cooper Calls Out Olson and Boies for "Demeaning Those With Whom They Disagree"

Have you seen the video of Chuck Cooper at the press conference after the oral arguments last week? No of course not. Not a single TV newscast televised his dramatic and graceful calling out of so-called superlaywers Olson and Boise for the way they have consistently demeaned those with whom they disagree.

Here's the clip of Cooper's dramatic statement.

Transcript (as closely as I can type it) is below:

Mr. Charles Cooper:

"Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. We are very pleased to be in this courthouse today to present our argument on appeals in defense of the constitutionality of prop 8, in defense of the judgment made by the majority of voters in the state of Calif. I want to pay our respects to our opponents in this case, who have presented their case with skill and with sincerity and we respect that. I regret in all candor that our opponents do not return that respect to the arguments and the positions that those of us defending the constitutionality of Prop 8 have advanced but rather have seen fit to demean and to ridicule those arguments.

We believe even more troubling is the essential point made with respect to well over 7 million people in this state who supported traditional marriage and the enactment of Prop 8. We believe that people of good will can disagree in good faith on this question, and that there are good and decent people on both sides of this debate; people from all walks of life, from all political persuasions, from all races and creeds, simply acting according to what they believe is best for their community, their state and themselves.

Our opponents don’t agree with that. They believe that everybody on the other side of them in this debate is behaving irrationally, that no defense, no good-faith belief, can be entertained in defense of the institution of marriage which has existed as we pointed out in the court earlier today in every  place and in every time in recorded history.

The place for this question to be decided is the place where it was decided: by the electorate through the democratic process.  Now in the court hearing just now there was obviously time for the court and the advocates to touch on only a fraction of the issues that have been raised, as I’m sure you know there are several hundred pages of briefing in this case, and  it’s not the appropriate forum here to attempt to re-argue that case but I do commend you to the full briefing for a complete discussion of all the merits of the case by all the parties

For the plaintiffs to prevail in this case they have to show not only that all the state and federal appellate courts that have addressed this issue, all of whom by the way that have upheld traditional marriage and rejected the arguments advanced today, that all of those  judges rendering those decision were irrational, that the Congress that enacted the DOMA that all of those people were irrational, that a large majority of the population of this country is irrational and behaving not in good faith, and that Pres. Obama, for that matter, must presumably be irrational.

That position we believe, with all due respect to our opponents,   is not sustainable and is not valid.

In conclusion if marriage is to be redefined in this state, it is the people who should make that decision."

Ken Mehlman: I'm Gay so now the GOP should support gay marriage!

It's hard to follow the logic of Ken Mehlman, who - when he was in power - refused to support SSM. Now that he's just a rich guy making a lot of money, he's adamant the GOP should support gay marriage, regardless of what GOP voters think.

Will this kind of illogic influence the Republican Party's race for RNC Chairman? Not if we can help it.

Andrew Sullivan at Georgetown

Lifesite news columnist Kathleen Gilbert was at my debate with Andrew Sullivan  at Georgetown on Wednesday and files this report--and asks this question:

"It was only when Sullivan talked about any Catholic other than himself that the warm rhetoric surrounding Catholicism began to grow ice cold.

The vast majority of the Catholic hierarchy, Sullivan asserted, cruelly suppress homosexuals (and “the reason they’re not OK with gay people is because they’re gay.”) Thanks to them, the hierarchy is rife with pedophiles - which, Sullivan acknowledged, were homosexual priests with a more twisted appetite.

As for the pope, words appeared not to be strong enough to express Sullivan’s anger. “The current pope, knowing that a child under his auspices had been raped by a priest under his authority, covered it up and sent that rapist to go rape other children,” he stated, referring to media accusations against Joseph Ratzinger regarding Rev Huellerman of Munich. The room, in a moment that will forever blacken the history of Georgetown, erupted in applause.

In any event, the lesson appeared to be that the pope, hierarchy, and the dogma they taught were far less Catholic than Sullivan himself.

I wondered what it was that defined Sullivan’s idea of “Catholicism.” It was unlikely to be the Bible, given Paul’s statement to Roman Christians that God punished mankind with “degrading passions” in which “their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another.”

So who decides what Catholicism is? After reducing the name “Catholic” to a mere shell (not unlike “marriage,” which Sullivan tellingly asserted “is what you believe it is”), why even keep the name? That, it seems, was the unasked question at the crux of the show."

Iowa News: Vander Plaats Applauds Brandstad's Strong Stand on Judicial Process

Gov. Branstad questioned the judicial nomination commission's impartiality and promises to find candidates who will respect the voter's judgment on marriage. Bob Vander Plaats, who has been a critic, applauded Gov. Branstad. Here's the video.

See Maggie Gallagher on CBN News: Even Liberal Judge Reinhardt Sees Boies/Olson Strategy as Back Door Effort.

NOM Chairman Maggie Gallagher gives fellow proponents of marriage between one man and one woman plenty of reasons to be hopeful that traditional marriage will carry the day, legally speaking; not the least of which is that most liberal judge on the panel, Stephen Reinhardt—whom NOM asked to recuse himself from the case—clearly saw that the Boies/Olson arguments presented amounted to a back door attempt to overturn the will of the people. Watch Maggie's interview:


You can watch the entire CBN news broadcast here and read their related article here.

Dr. J Talks to Prop8 Legal Team Lawyer Austin Nimocks About the Strength of the Pro-Prop8 Argument

Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse--Dr. J--of NOM's Ruth Institute interviews Austin Nimocks--senior legal counsel at the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) and member of the Prop8 legal team--about the national implications if Prop8 were overturned and the reasons he believes that the pro-traditional marriage argument will carry the day in court and around the nation. Click the player below to hear Austin's insightful points.

Tom Peters on Sullivan v. Gallagher

NOM Chairman Maggie Gallagher debated Andrew Sullivan at Georgetown University Wednesday night, in an event facilitated by a new group called Catholics for Equality and moderated by E.J. Dionne.

The day of the event Archbishop Wuerl's spokesman released a statement saying Catholics for Equality is not a Catholic group.  Listening to Andrew Sullivan, you could see why.

Tom Peters take on Andrew Sullivan's performance  is called "Mockery, Ignorance, and Lies""